> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.antoinebuteau.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Lessons from Matt Ocko - URL: https://www.antoinebuteau.com/lessons-from-matt-ocko/ - Published: 2025-09-01T01:42:09.000Z - Updated: 2026-09-05T03:24:59.000Z - Description: Matt Ocko, co-founder and managing partner of DCVC, approaches venture capital through “Deep Tech” and companies with an “algorithmic edge,” offering a distinctive investment lens for examining where technical differentiation can create enduring strategic advantage. - Author: Antoine Buteau - Tags: Profile, Investing, Venture Capital Profiles As a prominent figure in the world of venture capital, Matt Ocko, Co-founder and Managing Partner of DCVC (Data Collective), has shared a wealth of knowledge over the years. His focus on "Deep Tech" and companies with a distinct "algorithmic edge" has set him apart. ![Infographic for "Lessons from Matt Ocko".](https://www.antoinebuteau.com/content/images/2026/07/lessons-from-matt-ocko-optimized.webp) ## On Investment Thesis and Strategy 1. **On DCVC's Core Idea:** "Our meta thesis, the thing that we want to see in any company is that they are exemplifying the use of compute and novel, highly defensible algorithms to themselves." [\[1\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. **The 'Cheat Code' of Data:** Ocko's firm looks for companies that use data and algorithms to "cheat," which he defines as substituting massive amounts of operational expenses, capital expenditures, and time with simulation, analytics, and approximation. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. **Investing in 'Must-Have' Tech:** DCVC focuses on "must-have' life-or-death technologies for large enterprises." [\[3\]](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. **The Problem with 'Fluffy SAS':** He expresses skepticism about investing in overly crowded markets, referring to some as the "seventh click three hearts on a survey to show that you're not a disgruntled employee fluffy SAS deal," where the risk is as high or higher than in deep tech due to lack of differentiation. [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. **Life or Death Technology:** When a deep tech company is successful, it "almost by definition has life or death technology." He gives the example of a company that can predict medical emergencies in NICUs, stating, "no one is going to shut that off." [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. **Avoiding Bidding Wars:** Ocko prefers to invest in areas with less competition, where companies aren't fighting "73 other companies all taking your prices down to zero in a desperate bid to survive." [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. **The Inefficiency of Fund Structures:** He argues that the traditional ten-year venture fund lifecycle is too short for deep tech companies, which may have a 15 to 30-year adoption arc, to reach their full potential. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com)[\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. **Fund Size Models are Flawed:** Ocko believes that the strict categorization of VC funds by size is suboptimal, as it can destroy valuable information from early-stage investors and bias investment choices. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. **The Power of a Thesis:** He emphasizes the importance of being "relentless about our thesis," which helps guide investment decisions and earns the respect of the investment community. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 10. **Capital Efficiency is Key:** A core aspect of his investment thesis is capital efficiency, both for the company's internal operations and the value it delivers to customers. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) ## On Deep Tech and Innovation 1. **The 30-Year Adoption Curve:** Ocko notes that truly transformative technologies often have a long adoption curve, sometimes close to 30 years from the lab bench to broad adoption. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. **Timing is Everything:** In deep tech, "you can just completely screw the pooch" by investing too early in the 30-year adoption curve. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. **The Danger of Being Too Late:** Investing too late in a hard-tech company leads to a "race to ruin," where undifferentiated companies burn through capital competing with each other. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. **The Convergence Driving Innovation:** He points to the convergence of Moore's Law, software advancements, material science, and robotics as a key enabler of innovation, making complex solutions more accessible. [\[3\]](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. **Solving Problems for the Pleasure of It:** "Innovation flourishes and hard tech innovation flourishes people solve incredibly difficult problems sometimes just for the pleasure of doing so." [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. **The Reality of Deep Tech Investing:** He describes the experience of building a deep tech company as "a profoundly unpleasant dark grim unhappy experience 99% of the time." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. **The Uniqueness of DCVC's Model:** DCVC employs a network of "equity partners"—experts from various tech fields who help with sourcing and due diligence—a model Ocko claims is unique. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. **Institutional Memory is Crucial:** He argues against outsourcing diligence to external experts because it prevents the firm from building "institutional memory." [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. **Modeling the Firm After a Deep Tech Company:** DCVC is structured to have a "virtuous spiral self-sustaining competitive advantage," where knowledge and capital feed back into the firm, much like the companies they invest in. [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 10. **The Nerd Flywheel:** He describes the internal culture at DCVC as an "inner nerd flywheel" amplified by their equity partners, all focused on getting to first principles. [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) ## On Entrepreneurs and Risk 1. **The Necessary Brain Chemistry of Founders:** To deal with the immense pressures of building a company, founders need a certain "brain chemistry that keeps you from from basically hanging yourself." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. **The Danger of the Messianic Entrepreneur:** A significant risk in deep tech is not necessarily malicious founders, but those with a "legitimate messianic belief that their stuff is going to work," which can be harder to discern from reality. [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. **Success is Largely Random:** "Success is relatively stochastic even with a very good CEO." He uses the word "stochastic" to mean "largely random." [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. **The Need for Humility:** Ocko stresses the importance of humility and open-mindedness for investors, and the ability to admit when you're wrong to recognize new opportunities. [\[3\]](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. **Sleeping Like a Baby:** "Good VCs especially deep tech ones sleep like babies. we wake up every two hours crying in in abject fear and hunger." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. **Avoiding Hubris:** He warns against the danger of VCs becoming "petty tyrants who confuse the stature or authority that they enjoy for exogenous reasons with their own capability." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. **On Passing on Theranos:** While not recalling a direct meeting with Elizabeth Holmes, he expressed skepticism about the "drop out to create a blood testing company" narrative, stating he wouldn't want his pilot or brain surgeon to have dropped out of school. [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. **The Anti-Portfolio:** Ocko admits that most of his "anti-portfolio" (companies he regrets passing on) comes from his time investing before co-founding DCVC. [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. **Taking Risks to Create a Utopian Future:** A theme in his discussions is the necessity of being brave and taking calculated risks to bring about a better future. [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 10. **The Importance of Being Contrarian:** He advocates for investing in "unloved, contrarian markets or massive markets" that others may overlook. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) ## On Technology and Society 1. **Technology for National Security:** Ocko has a long history of involvement with national security, stating he has been "building tech to advance the security and prosperity of the United States since 1983." [\[8\]](https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. **The Long-Term View of Big Data:** Years ago, he stated, "we see big data as the same rich and long-term opportunity that it was broadly in the 1970s and early 1980s." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. **On Artificial Intelligence Hype:** While a proponent of AI, he has also spoken about the hype surrounding it, suggesting a need for a nuanced understanding. [\[1\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. **The Societal Impact of Fund Structures:** He argues that when early-stage investors are biased towards what later-stage investors will find palatable, it can negatively affect the societal impact of the companies that get funded. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. **Investing with an Ethical Framework:** Ocko highlights the need for an ethical framework to guide investment decisions in powerful technologies. [\[3\]](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. **Technology to Prevent Atrocities:** He has expressed that one of his firm's companies made it "literally impossible for anybody to get away with uh with genocide ever again." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. **Combating Financial Fraud:** He also mentioned a portfolio company that made it impossible for someone like Bernie Madoff to "commit as large a structural fraud." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. **On Controversial Views:** Ocko has faced public criticism for his statements on geopolitical issues. Reports have cited now-deleted tweets where he allegedly made inflammatory remarks about various populations. [\[9\]](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com)[\[10\]](https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) One source claimed he compared Russian society to a plague, and another alleged he referred to supporters of a free Palestine as "subhuman." [\[9\]](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com)[\[10\]](https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. **Advocating for Collective Punishment:** In another controversial statement, he was reported to have advocated for the collective punishment of Palestinians, referring to their society as an "inhuman 'death cult'." [\[9\]](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 10. **Calling for Deportation:** His criticisms have also extended to protestors, allegedly calling for the deportation and criminalization of those participating in "Free Palestine" protests. [\[9\]](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) ## Personal Learnings and Anecdotes 1. **Started Programming at Age Seven:** His technical background is deep-rooted, having started programming at a very young age. [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. **Inventor on Over 50 Patents:** Ocko is an inventor on over 50 granted or in-process patents in diverse fields like computer systems virtualization and fraud detection. [\[8\]](https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com)[\[11\]](https://wellfound.com/p/mattocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. **The Loneliest Investor:** He recounts a time early in his career when he had two of everything—cars, places to live, furniture—but "no social life," making him the "loneliest investor." [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. **Mentorship from a Real-Life 'Most Interesting Man in the World':** His early solo LP was a fascinating character who once walked naked into a cave in West Africa and emerged with a billion-dollar gold deal. [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. **On His Own Productivity:** When asked about his late-night work habits, he humorously suggested his investment returns speak for themselves: "I would, with a joking but ever so slightly sincere rejoinder, say that our returns speak in favor of my strategy and not hers." [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. **A Deep Thinker:** He is described by interviewers as a "truly deep thinker." [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. **Still a Builder:** Despite his success as a VC, he "still writes code and builds robots for fun with his kids." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. **Tech Preferences:** He admits to "liking Erlang better than Clojure, and Fischertechnik better than Lego Mindstorms." [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. **Family History in China:** Ocko has mentioned his family's long-standing relationship with the Chinese government, which has been a subject of scrutiny. [\[12\]](https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/dear-mr-ocko-an-open-letter-to-an) 10. **The Goal of Investing:** For Ocko, a key motivation is doing "something material" with his work, as opposed to simply generating content online. [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) **Sources:** [\[6\]](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Deciphr AI, "20VC Data Collective's Matt Ocko on Why All Fund Size Models Are Wrong and The Lifecycle of Current Venture Funds Is Inefficient" - [https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[3\]](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Glasp, "Matt Ocko: The Art of Funding Deep Technology | Video Summary and Q&A" - [https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[1\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) YouTube, "GIC Insights 2017: Matt Ocko On AI Hype" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[2\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) YouTube, "Matt Ocko: The Art of Funding Deep Technology" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[4\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) YouTube, "DCVC's Matt Ocko on deep tech w/algorithmic edge, difficult markets, seed, risk taking | Angel S3 E3" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[5\]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) YouTube, "DCVC's Matt Ocko on deep tech w/algorithmic edge, difficult markets, seed, risk taking | Angel S3 E3" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8\_yDUU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[11\]](https://wellfound.com/p/mattocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Wellfound, "Matt Ocko" - [https://wellfound.com/p/mattocko](https://wellfound.com/p/mattocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[13\]](https://genocide.vc/tag/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Genocide VC, "Matt Ocko" - [https://genocide.vc/tag/matt-ocko/](https://genocide.vc/tag/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[8\]](https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) DCVC, "Matthew Ocko" - [https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/](https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[7\]](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) YouTube, "Matt Ocko: The Art of Funding Deep Technology" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[9\]](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Genocide VC, "Matt Ocko of DCVC believes Palestinians are sub-human savages" - [https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/](https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[14\]](https://specialops.org/who-we-are/board-and-staff/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) GIC, "Matt Ocko" - [https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[15\]](https://theorg.com/org/archimedes-1/org-chart/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) The Org, "Matt Ocko - Managing Director at Archimedes" - [https://theorg.com/org/archimedes-1/org-chart/matt-ocko](https://theorg.com/org/archimedes-1/org-chart/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) [\[10\]](https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) Charles Johnson's Thoughts and Adventures, "Dear Mr. Ocko: An Open Letter to an Israeli Spy Posing as a Venture Capitalist and to his LPs" - [\[12\]](https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/dear-mr-ocko-an-open-letter-to-an) Special Operations Warrior Foundation, "Matthew Ocko" - [https://specialops.org/who-we-are/board-and-staff/matthew-ocko/](https://specialops.org/who-we-are/board-and-staff/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) --- Learn more: 1. [GIC Insights 2017: Matt Ocko On AI Hype - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ebmene2teU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 2. [Matt Ocko: The Art of Funding Deep Technology - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEc7B9r-Isc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 3. [Matt Ocko: The Art of Funding Deep Technology | Video Summary and Q&A | Glasp](https://glasp.co/youtube/p/matt-ocko-the-art-of-funding-deep-technology?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 4. [DCVC's Matt Ocko on deep tech w/algorithmic edge, difficult markets, seed, risk taking | Angel S3 E3 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxHcTRCxfc&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 5. [DCVC's Matt Ocko on deep tech w/algorithmic edge, difficult markets, seed, risk taking | Angel S3 E3 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZqI8%5FyDUU&ref=antoinebuteau.com) 6. [20VC Data Collective's Matt Ocko on Why All Fund Size Models Are Wrong and The Lifecycle of Current Venture Funds Is Inefficient - Deciphr AI](https://www.deciphr.ai/podcast/20vc-data-collectives-matt-ocko-on-why-all-fund-size-models-are-wrong-and-the-lifecycle-of-current-venture-funds-is-inefficient?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 7. [Matt Ocko - GIC](https://www.gic.com.sg/event-speakers/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 8. [Co-Founder and Managing Partner - Matthew Ocko - DCVC](https://www.dcvc.com/team/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 9. [Matt Ocko (DCVC) / VC Breakdown & Contact](https://www.vcsheet.com/who/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 10. [Matt Ocko of DCVC believes Palestinians are sub-human savages - Genocide VC](https://genocide.vc/matt-ocko-of-dcvc-believes-palestinians-are-sub-human/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 11. [Matt Ocko - Wellfound](https://wellfound.com/p/mattocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 12. [Dear Mr. Ocko: An Open Letter to an Israeli Spy Posing as a Venture Capitalist and to his LPs - Charles Johnson's Thoughts and Adventures](https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/dear-mr-ocko-an-open-letter-to-an) 13. [Matt Ocko - Genocide VC](https://genocide.vc/tag/matt-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 14. [Matthew Ocko - Special Operations Warrior Foundation](https://specialops.org/who-we-are/board-and-staff/matthew-ocko/?ref=antoinebuteau.com) 15. [Matt Ocko - Managing Director at Archimedes - Healthcare Modeling - The Org](https://theorg.com/org/archimedes-1/org-chart/matt-ocko?ref=antoinebuteau.com)